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		<title>By: Can this save you a little money? &#124; TNPC Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.tnpcnewsletter.com/blog/2006/01/19/gasoline-and-dollar-cost-averaging/comment-page-1/#comment-21917</link>
		<dc:creator>Can this save you a little money? &#124; TNPC Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Des West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I would add this which was sent to me by a friend from Durban.

TIPS ON FUELING YOUR CAR

I don&#039;t know what you guys are paying for petrol.... but here in Durban we are also
paying higher, up to R7.35 per litre. But my line of work is in petroleum for about
31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money&#039;s worth for every litre.
Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline where I work in Durban , we deliver about 4 million litres
in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel,
and petrol, LERP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of
16,800,000 litres.
*Only buy or fill up your car in the early morning* when the ground temperature is still cold.
Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder
the ground the more dense the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, *so buying in the
afternoon or in the evening*....your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business,
the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and
other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal
for this business. But *the service stations do not have temperature compensation* at the pumps.
When you&#039;re filling up *do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode*. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you
should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while you are pumping. *All hoses at the pump have a vapour return.* If you are pumping on the fast rate,
some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. *Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you&#039;re getting less worth for your money*.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your tank is HALF FULL. The reason for
this is, the more fuel you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal
floating roof.
This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes
the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is
temperature compensated so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a fuel truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop
to buy, DO NOT fill up--most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I would add this which was sent to me by a friend from Durban.</p>
<p>TIPS ON FUELING YOUR CAR</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you guys are paying for petrol&#8230;. but here in Durban we are also<br />
paying higher, up to R7.35 per litre. But my line of work is in petroleum for about<br />
31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money&#8217;s worth for every litre.<br />
Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline where I work in Durban , we deliver about 4 million litres<br />
in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel,<br />
and petrol, LERP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of<br />
16,800,000 litres.<br />
*Only buy or fill up your car in the early morning* when the ground temperature is still cold.<br />
Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder<br />
the ground the more dense the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, *so buying in the<br />
afternoon or in the evening*&#8230;.your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business,<br />
the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and<br />
other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal<br />
for this business. But *the service stations do not have temperature compensation* at the pumps.<br />
When you&#8217;re filling up *do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode*. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you<br />
should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while you are pumping. *All hoses at the pump have a vapour return.* If you are pumping on the fast rate,<br />
some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. *Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you&#8217;re getting less worth for your money*.<br />
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your tank is HALF FULL. The reason for<br />
this is, the more fuel you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal<br />
floating roof.<br />
This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes<br />
the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is<br />
temperature compensated so that every litre is actually the exact amount.<br />
Another reminder, if there is a fuel truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop<br />
to buy, DO NOT fill up&#8211;most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.<br />
Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.</p>
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		<title>By: Thunder</title>
		<link>http://www.tnpcnewsletter.com/blog/2006/01/19/gasoline-and-dollar-cost-averaging/comment-page-1/#comment-18700</link>
		<dc:creator>Thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you regarding most details in regard to the increasing cost of gasoline. Seems as if gas prices vary nominally between stations in one&#039;s local area. We most likely know where the best prices are and driving further eats up the savings. Maybe while traveling it could work, but for me it is more trouble than it&#039;s worth.

The problem is not solved with searchs on the internet or with cost averaging...most of us just need to get where we want to go.

What will bring down the prices? Maybe the American people getting in the streets to voice their problem. Supporting the building of more refineries will create a greater flow of fuel.

Alternative fuels may be a solution as long as it is efficient and doesn&#039;t create other problems, and so the ethanol band wagon I choose not to ride in. It is anything other than cost effective and doesn&#039;t really address the root issue.

What of hydrogen? There are a number of people already using hydrogen in there cars (google water4cars). Part of the energy problem is due to corporate entities wanting control so they can profit. I support profits being made in any business endeavor, profit is not my issue. Control is the issue. We won&#039;t have hydrogen available until the oil companies can build enough of hydrogen fuel stations to supply the demand. I will stop here on this because time and space here doesn&#039;t permit a full disclosure now.

The average American doesn&#039;t know that Ford (for instance) sells cars in South American where the mpg are higher by law than here. I have forgotten which SA country has a minimum standard of 43mpg, fail to get 43mpg and the car can&#039;t be sold there. So Ford sells cars down south, why don&#039;t they sell them here? Almost pisses you off when you think about.

For me, solving the problem rather than half solutions is what is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you regarding most details in regard to the increasing cost of gasoline. Seems as if gas prices vary nominally between stations in one&#8217;s local area. We most likely know where the best prices are and driving further eats up the savings. Maybe while traveling it could work, but for me it is more trouble than it&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>The problem is not solved with searchs on the internet or with cost averaging&#8230;most of us just need to get where we want to go.</p>
<p>What will bring down the prices? Maybe the American people getting in the streets to voice their problem. Supporting the building of more refineries will create a greater flow of fuel.</p>
<p>Alternative fuels may be a solution as long as it is efficient and doesn&#8217;t create other problems, and so the ethanol band wagon I choose not to ride in. It is anything other than cost effective and doesn&#8217;t really address the root issue.</p>
<p>What of hydrogen? There are a number of people already using hydrogen in there cars (google water4cars). Part of the energy problem is due to corporate entities wanting control so they can profit. I support profits being made in any business endeavor, profit is not my issue. Control is the issue. We won&#8217;t have hydrogen available until the oil companies can build enough of hydrogen fuel stations to supply the demand. I will stop here on this because time and space here doesn&#8217;t permit a full disclosure now.</p>
<p>The average American doesn&#8217;t know that Ford (for instance) sells cars in South American where the mpg are higher by law than here. I have forgotten which SA country has a minimum standard of 43mpg, fail to get 43mpg and the car can&#8217;t be sold there. So Ford sells cars down south, why don&#8217;t they sell them here? Almost pisses you off when you think about.</p>
<p>For me, solving the problem rather than half solutions is what is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis Hanks</title>
		<link>http://www.tnpcnewsletter.com/blog/2006/01/19/gasoline-and-dollar-cost-averaging/comment-page-1/#comment-18672</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyllis Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all places have Costco Warehouses; but if you belong to Costco as I do the gas is cheaper there than anywhere else in town.  I do all my grocery shopping there also; so make the trip every other week to get food and gas as Costco is 8 miles one way and the other is about 10 miles.  I don&#039;t drive as many total miles these days as I used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all places have Costco Warehouses; but if you belong to Costco as I do the gas is cheaper there than anywhere else in town.  I do all my grocery shopping there also; so make the trip every other week to get food and gas as Costco is 8 miles one way and the other is about 10 miles.  I don&#8217;t drive as many total miles these days as I used to.</p>
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		<title>By: bill wald</title>
		<link>http://www.tnpcnewsletter.com/blog/2006/01/19/gasoline-and-dollar-cost-averaging/comment-page-1/#comment-18667</link>
		<dc:creator>bill wald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would rather see a website of towns with terrible gas prices. There are some entire towns with jacked up prices where one can save two bits or so  a gallon by driving to the next town. For example, Leavenworth, WA, and Williams, Cal. One can save big time gassing in Arizona instead of Needles, Cal.

On the other hand, with a small car, it doesn&#039;t pay to go out of one&#039;s way to save a dime, only 2% or 3% at current prices. Further, very few brands meet Japanese standards for detergency. On the Left Coast, Chevron, Shell, and Union 76. That&#039;s worth an extra dime on $4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would rather see a website of towns with terrible gas prices. There are some entire towns with jacked up prices where one can save two bits or so  a gallon by driving to the next town. For example, Leavenworth, WA, and Williams, Cal. One can save big time gassing in Arizona instead of Needles, Cal.</p>
<p>On the other hand, with a small car, it doesn&#8217;t pay to go out of one&#8217;s way to save a dime, only 2% or 3% at current prices. Further, very few brands meet Japanese standards for detergency. On the Left Coast, Chevron, Shell, and Union 76. That&#8217;s worth an extra dime on $4.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reflect on this - petrol in Sydney, converting our litres to US gallons and converting $Aust to $US we currently pay about US$6.20 per US gallon. Now what was that about feeling badly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reflect on this &#8211; petrol in Sydney, converting our litres to US gallons and converting $Aust to $US we currently pay about US$6.20 per US gallon. Now what was that about feeling badly?</p>
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